After going over my hard drive, I figured the best way to explain the "Vito" stalker, his pursuer Frank Clark, and other stalking problems unique to Prodigy in the 1992-1994 period was to show some of the postings. The first post is from the real Frank Clark. Some of Vito's impersonation posts are also listed here, as well as a few mentions of Mark Pena. I'd recommend copying this onto a disk or printing the whole thing out instead of just viewing it online and racking up valuable web time.

PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service     02/15/1994     12:58 PM
===============   Note     1              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:                ALL                   Date:    02/10
From:   NDDA67A    FRANK CLARK           Time:    11:28 AM

I am Det. Frank Clark, Economic/Computer Crimes Investigator
with the Fresno Police Dept. I hesitate to post at all for
reasons obvious to all who read this subject and will do so
only this once to clear the air (hopefully but with some
doubt). Many of you have talked with me including Laurie
Powell, Greenberg, Fraigen, McGraff, Hart and Leeds.
There has been an investigation into the allegations of
stalking and credit fraud. There have been real crimes
committed against Prodigy members and Prodigy itself,
including various state and federal statutes involving
electronic/telephone harrassment, grand theft and credit
fraud.The case has been reviewed by the Secret Service and
the U.S. Attorney in Fresno who confirm the existance of a
crime, which does not meet their $ figures for federal
prosecution. Positive identification of the suspect(s)
responsible for these violations of the law is the only
reason arrests have not been made.
Everyone using the "Information Super Highway" should know
That they are really in the electronic frontier, they are
not talking to their caring next door neighbor.
In any frontier there are good guys and predators. Very few
laws or law enforcement. You must take some precautions to
take care of yourself. Here are my suggestions--Take it or
flame it, truth is truth.
1. Never, Never, Never give personal information about
yourself or your family online!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Don't get into online name calling and threats-this is a
no win situation always.
3. Exclude problem people from your mail
4. Never reply to obnoxious people, they love the fight and
often live for it. There can be no fight if there is no one
to hit.
5. Use the electronic frontier responsibly, enjoy the
benefits
6. As responsible citizens remember you are now new settlers
in this electronic frontier-how will you help shape your
world?
If the settlers do not act responibly with their freedoms -
business and or government will be forced to step in and
limit their freedom with controls and laws. It's really our
choice.

There are a lot of you and only one of me-read "I cannot
answer all of your questions or talk to all who read this po
st. My hope is that this answers most of the questions I've
seen posted here.

Last, if you are the victim of a crime do not hesitate to
report it to the appropriate agency. There are few
technically trained law enforcement officers in the frontier
but their numbers are growing.
Respectfully,

Frank Clark, Det.
Economic/Computer Crimes Unit
Fresno Police Department
2323 Mariposa
Fresno, Ca. 93721


===============   Reply    1 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     DRVR33A    RAY KUEHNE            Date:    02/10
From:   NDDA67A    FRANK CLARK           Time:     4:01 PM

In most multi-jurisdictional cases involving electronic
crimes the reports and suspect information are passed on to
an appropriate investigator in the jurisdiction where;
1. The crime occurred (Prodigy computer location)
2. The suspect committed an illegal act (where the suspect
is)
3. The victim was an recipient of the illegal act. (Where
the victim was when they became a victim, ie., home state)
We often initiate an investigation on electronic/telephonic
crimes which are often multijurisdictional investigations.
They begin in one state and often lead to multiple states
and even across national borders. The information is simply
passed on to an appropriate investigator in the jurisdiction
involved. A FEW cops have modems and computers ---- we're
probable no more than 10 years behind the general public.
(:-}} Hope this helps
Frank Clark
===============   Note     1              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     CCNU40A    FRANK CLARK           Date:    03/25
From:   SXDB96A    JANICE SNOW           Time:     3:12 PM

Just a check.


===============   Reply    1 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     FHHA61A    D CLARKE              Date:    03/25
From:   KXTK32B    C BUMPAS              Time:     8:12 PM

Donald,
        yes, you'd THINK they'd have pulled it by now. You'd
also THINK they'd have ended all this crap a LONG time ago
too, but hey, that's what we get for thinking huh?

Carla


===============   Reply    2 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Date:    03/25
From:   NNFW54B    LAURIE POWELL         Time:     8:32 PM

Archie, more disinformation. I have talked with both the
real Carolyn Flemming and the person who claimed to be ms
Carloyn D Amico. They are NOT the same. Of course you know
that as you yourself have talked with D Amico on the phone.
I dont expect you to own up to the truth of this, but thats
okay. I KNOW the two are NOT the same. Laurie


===============   Reply    3 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     NNFW54B    LAURIE POWELL         Date:    03/25
From:   DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Time:     8:56 PM

Laurie,
       What about Carolyn Savin? I know for a fact that she
is D'Amico.

        03/25 07:38 pm CST Archie in Chicago


===============   Reply    4 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Date:    03/26
From:   HMJH86A    LARRY JANDRO          Time:    12:32 PM

 Archie,  I looked back over my notes re one Mark Pena.
Cara D'Amico/ESWG83A, is one of the fake names/ID's he used.
 It also happened to be the name of a real *P member.  It
was the fake Cara D'Amico who caused the trouble.
 Sound like a familiar tactic to you...?

09:34 AM  PST   ***Larry Jandro in No. CA***  03/26/94


===============   Reply    5 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     FHHA61A    D CLARKE              Date:    03/26
From:   GNWC49C    LARRY GREENBERG       Time:     3:29 PM

Donald, Det. Clark's real id is NDDA67A.  The other ID
belongs to a known stalker persona.


===============   Reply    6 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     HMJH86A    LARRY JANDRO          Date:    03/26
From:   GNWC49C    LARRY GREENBERG       Time:     3:29 PM

Larry, the infamous Marky has had more names and IDs, male
AND female, than you could possibly imagine.  And
incidentally, Carolyn Fleming is NOT "Carolyn D'Amico" as
insinuated by AL.  Carolyn Fleming is a very nice woman
who's daughter received the pornographic note that started
the war aginst Marky to begin with.


===============   Reply    7 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     SXDB96A    JANICE SNOW           Date:    03/26
From:   NXDB46A    LYNDA MC ADAMS        Time:     3:29 PM

I graduated from high school with 4 other women all with the
same 1st and last name that I had. Two of us had the same
middle name as well.This could be the same type of
situation. I did not see the post in question. I am not
addressing the issue of the content of the note; only that
many people share the same name.
Lynda


===============   Reply    8 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Date:    03/26
From:   SXDB96A    JANICE SNOW           Time:     3:29 PM

But.....You also know for a fact that the REAL Cara, was
impersonated over and over again!
Carolyn Fleming is very real, and she is a wonderful mother
that went through he!! and back. Don't you remember?


===============   Reply    9 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     KXTK32B    C BUMPAS              Date:    03/26
From:   KSMA41A    ABBINOR FEIR          Time:     3:33 PM

Bumpas,

Wasn't  the name on the account Gif Dornier? (g)


===============   Reply   10 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Date:    03/26
From:   XRPP25A    SCOTT DIAMOND         Time:     3:33 PM

Archie, You have just made several accusations about things
you know for a "fact". What proof do you have of these
accusations. I notice that one of them is against a member
who you know is no longer here so can no longer defend
herself.

Scott


===============   Reply   11 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Date:    03/26
From:   HKVA20A    JANET FAUBION         Time:     3:33 PM

Archie, 'cuse me, but why did you even bother to mention
Carolyn Fleming's name then?  I really wish I could start
believing your statements, but with statements such as:

PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service            03/26
      0:55 AM

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     HMJH86A    LARRY JANDRO          Date:    03/25
From:   DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Time:     8:09 PM


Larry,
      D'Amico is real. She also has been por\sting under the
names Carolyn Fleming or Savin. She is the "smoking gun" of
the 7. Seems that she has been causing trouble on P* for
years.
       03/25 06:53 pm CST Archie in Chicago


===============   Reply   12 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Date:    03/26
From:   FHHA61A    D CLARKE              Time:     3:33 PM

How do you know this about Ms. D'Amico? Since you live in
Chicago, I would suggest you contact Jerry Vasilatos of the
North Lake Shore area about Cara's "misdeeds". He still
keeps in contact with her, and is also the chief expert on
the Mark Pena fiasco.

-Donald


===============   Reply   13 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     HMJH86A    LARRY JANDRO          Date:    03/26
From:   FHHA61A    D CLARKE              Time:     3:37 PM

Mark Pena used 3 Cara pseudonyms. One of them actually read
"Carolyn D'Amico". And besides, Cara told me that she left
because she was tired of the #$^&**! that went on the
boards. But as soon as she turned in her ID, all her posts
were yanked. It wasn't until several weeks after she left
before Pena's fake Caras were kicked off *P. I thought I was
the only one here who knew about Pena's craziness.
-Donald



===============   Reply   14 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Date:    03/26
From:   NXNF19A    RENA MILLER           Time:     3:37 PM

Archie:  My laugh for this morning.  "She is not reading
anything, she was kicked off *P"  Now you and I both know
that people that have been kicked off P can still read and
write notes, because they come back on the service with
another name, now am I right or wrong?

                                      Rena


===============   Reply   15 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     HMJH86A    LARRY JANDRO          Date:    03/26
From:   NNFW54B    LAURIE POWELL         Time:     3:41 PM

Larry, C D Amico was the same person as C Savin. SHe called
me twice and in one of the conversations said the Savin
account was a friend who let her use a sub id. The stalker
also falsely used the name of C Flemming and D Amico said he
has also used her name on sexual issues. I do know D Amico
and Flemming are NOT the same person. Laurie


===============   Reply   16 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     NNFW54B    LAURIE POWELL         Date:    03/26
From:   XFYP97A    RON CANTY             Time:     3:41 PM

Laurie, it would appear that distracting things such as
truth and honesty have a real problem coming from certain
IDs. Why would someone post blatant lies on this BB? IF
someone knew that a Carolyn Fleming and a Cara D'Amico were
different people, why would they publicly say they were the
same person. I've seen speculation in this BB, usually fom
people who were guessing, but to know the truth.............


===============   Reply   17 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     HMJH86A    LARRY JANDRO          Date:    03/26
From:   DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Time:     3:42 PM

Larry,
      I happened to have been harassed bu the real Carolyn
D'Amico as recently as a month ago. She was then posting
here under the name Carolyn Savin.  She is one of the 7 and
has been causing trouble on P* for quite some time. That is
why she was terminated.
       03/26 11:41 am CST Archie in Chicago


===============   Reply   18 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     HMJH86A    LARRY JANDRO          Date:    03/26
From:   HNGX37A    FRANCES STUCKEY       Time:     3:45 PM

Larry,

You mean to say that it is Mark Pena who is behind all
this?!?!?!  He used to be all over the CUBB.  We had quite a
few heated arguments with him on the abortion boards.  He
told quite a few stories there.  First that he was a law
school student.  Then we found out that he was really a
junior college student.  His age bounced back and forth
between 18-25.  First, he had a million girlfriends (all
good non-feminists, traditional types, ya' know?), then, he
claimed a fiance who, he claimed, he met through *P*, but he
still talked about his multiple girlfriends.  Guess he
wasn't worried that his "fiance" would see any of those
notes?

Oh, this changes things in my eyes.  I saw talk of a Mark,
I didn't know it was Pena.  I always just thought he was
stupid and rude.  I wouldn't have pegged him as a pedophile
or a stalker, but then, he told so many lies that were so
easy to catch him at, I don't know why I'd be surprised.

Would someone mind e-mailing me with a few details about
Mark's exploits?  I know quite a few people who would LOVE
to hear this about Mark. We all just thought he was a
pipsqueak.  Oh, they're going love this!


Franci-   Saturday, March 26, 09:54 am


===============   Reply   19 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Date:    03/26
From:   FKNF40A    JAMES STOLIN          Time:     3:46 PM

"Archie",
   You have at least two false IDs on your account. Your C
and D IDs have McHugh and Greenberg names. Why haven't you
corrected this. Frank should find this interesting.
Jim - Illinois Computer Service 03/26 12:32 pm


===============   Reply   20 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Date:    03/26
From:   FKNF40A    JAMES STOLIN          Time:     3:46 PM

"Archie",
   If you know the Savin and D'Amico accounts are the same
person, please report it to P* and Frank Clark immediately.
While you're doing that, tell them about your sub-IDs
DWFC96C and DWFC96D accounts with the McHugh and Greenberg
names.
Jim - Illinois Computer Service 03/26 12:36 pm


===============   Reply   21 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     XFYP97A    RON CANTY             Date:    03/26
From:   NNFW54B    LAURIE POWELL         Time:     4:28 PM

Ron, some must find it there mission in life to spread as
much dis information as possible. I have talked with both C
DAmico and C Flemming on the phone and they are not the same
person. They dont even live in the same state. Course you
see those who insist Larry Greenburg and Evelyn are the
same. I talk with both of them almost every day and I
promise you, they are not the same either. Laurie


===============   Reply   22 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     GNWC49C    LARRY GREENBERG       Date:    03/26
From:   DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Time:     5:47 PM

Larry,
      Carolyn D'Amico was Carolyn Savin. She is involved
with your group and has been a proven troublemaker on P*

           03/26 03:12 pm CST Archie in Chicago


===============   Reply   23 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     SXDB96A    JANICE SNOW           Date:    03/26
From:   DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Time:     5:47 PM

Janice,
       I do remember Cara as being a troublemaker on the
Sexual Issues boards and being terminated. I also have many
friends on P* aware of her activities that will be happy to
verify my statements!

   03/26 03:15 pm CST Archie in Chicago


===============   Reply   24 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     HKVA20A    JANET FAUBION         Date:    03/26
From:   DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Time:     5:51 PM

Janet,
      Carolyn Fleming is Carolyn D'Amico

           03/26 03:18 pm CST Archie in Chicago


===============   Reply   25 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     FHHA61A    D CLARKE              Date:    03/26
From:   DWFC96A    ARCHIE LEEDS          Time:     5:51 PM

Donald,
       I have no idea who Mark Pena is.

          03/26 03:19 pm CST Archie in Chicago


===============   Reply   26 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     HNGX37A    FRANCES STUCKEY       Date:    03/26
From:   HMJH86A    LARRY JANDRO          Time:     5:51 PM

 Franci,  I don't think the "Marky" being discussed here is
necessarily Mark Pena, but the recent connection to the
D'Amico impersonation is suspicious because Mark Pena DID
impersonate the real Cara D'Amico.  (Are Marky & Mark Pena
the same person...?...who knows...)
 Archie claims to have been harrassed by the real Cara
D'Amico, but that's a typical Archieism - an attempt to
discredit a REAL victim of harrassment.
 From what I remember, Mark P's "girlfriend" was nothing
more than another one of his own personas...  I think it was
"Cloud Braxton"...?


02:36 PM  PST   ***Larry Jandro in No. CA***  03/26/94


===============   Reply   27 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     HNGX37A    FRANCES STUCKEY       Date:    03/26
From:   NNFW54B    LAURIE POWELL         Time:     8:11 PM

I dont believe we are talking about the same Mark. I am
somewhat familar with the Pena incidents and dont think they
are the same person. Gee, must be more than one nut case
here on P, who would have "thunk" it. Laurie

===============   Note     1              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     NDDA67A    FRANK CLARK           Date:    03/24
From:   FHHA61A    D CLARKE              Time:     3:45 PM

So what's the deal?  Is this note an impersonation?
===============   Note     1              =================
Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject: ADVISORY:STALKER****
To:                ALL                   Date:    02/10/94
From:   NDDA67A    FRANK CLARK           Time:    11:28 AM

I am Det. Frank Clark, Economic/Computer Crimes Investigator
with the Fresno Police Dept. I hesitate to post at all for
reasons obvious to all who read this subject and will do so
only this once to clear the air (hopefully but with some
doubt). Many of you have talked with me including Laurie
Powell, Greenberg, Fraigen, McGraff, Hart and Leeds.
There has been an investigation into the allegations of stak
stalking and credit fraud. There have been real crimes
committed against Prodigy members and Prodigy itself,
including various state and federal statutes involving
electronic/telephone harrassment, grand theft and credit
fraud.The case has been reviewed by the Secret Service and
the U.S. Attorney in Fresno who confirm the existance of a
crime, which does not meet their $ figures for federal
prosecution. Positive identification of the suspect(s)
responsible for these violations of the law is the only
reason arrests have not been made.
Everyone using the "Information Super Highway" should know
That they are really in the electronic frontier, they are
not talking to their caring next door neighbor.
In any frontier there are good guys and predators. Very few
laws or law enforcement. You must take some precautions to
take care of yourself. Here are my suggestions--Take it or
flame it, truth is truth.
1. Never, Never, Never give personal information about
yourself or your family online!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Don't get into online name calling and threats-this is a
no win situation always.
3. Exclude problem people from your mail
4. Never reply to obnoxious people, they love the fight and
often live for it. There can be no fight if there is no one
to hit.
5. Use the electronic frontier responsibly, enjoy the
benefits
6. As responsible citizens remember you are now new settlers
in this electronic frontier-how will you help shape your
world?
If the settlers do not act responibly with their freedoms -
business and or government will be forced to step in and
limit their freedom with controls and laws. It's really our
choice.
There are a lot of you and only one of me-read "I cannot
answer all of your questions or talk to all who read this po
st. My hope is that this answers most of the questions I've
seen posted here.

Last, if you are the victim of a crime do not hesitate to
report it to the appropriate agency. There are few
technically trained law enforcement officers in the frontier
but their numbers are growing.
Respectfully,


===============   Reply    1 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     NHPC12A    JIM WARD              Date:    03/24
From:   DTPS48C    CRAIG CAMPBELL        Time:     7:49 PM

    What is YOUR problem JIM WARD???  Really.  That is
Donald Clarke, a *P* member who has been on this Member
Exchange on the P* Bulletin Board Topic and this Member
Feedback Topic and who I believe has been a member for at
least a solid year.  Are you so paranoid that you need to
attack everyone and post false information non-stop?


===============   Reply    2 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     FHHA61A    D CLARKE              Date:    03/24
From:   DTPS48C    CRAIG CAMPBELL        Time:     7:53 PM

Hi Donald!   As you can see Jim Ward has the Deputy-Dog
badge on again and is barking at you already.  Pay no
attention to this guy.  Thank you for posting the note from
the Detective again on the Member Feedback Bulletin Board.


===============   Reply    3 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     DTPS48C    CRAIG CAMPBELL        Date:    03/24
From:   BHNK79A    RITA WORCH            Time:     8:47 PM

Not only does JIM WARD accuse many of having false ID's he
also insinuates we are all 30 day wonders who leave Prodigy
without paying any bills!  I don't know why all his notes
continue to appear on these boards . . .it's VERY obvious
that he is constantly bending the GUIDE LINES to suit his
purpose.


===============   Reply    4 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     DTPS48C    CRAIG CAMPBELL        Date:    03/25
From:   NHPC12A    JIM WARD              Time:    10:10 AM

Please explain to me what you are talking about? I do not
see any posts from me in this subject.


===============   Reply    5 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     FHHA61A    D CLARKE              Date:    03/25
From:   XTTA32A    J KENNEDY             Time:    10:12 AM

Hey, anything containing common sense is a welcome sight.
That real or fake "Det. Clark" post offered common sense
advice.

Now, let's see who and how many ignore the positive message
and go for the controversy.
John in Brockton, Massachusetts - 09:59 PM  EST - 03/24/94


===============   Reply    6 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     DTPS48C    CRAIG CAMPBELL        Date:    03/25
From:   FHHA61A    D CLARKE              Time:    10:21 AM

What exactly did Ward accuse me of? The supposed note he
posted has been yanked. BTW, I have been on *P off and on
since February 1992; I got this ID in December.

-Donald


===============   Reply    7 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     DTPS48C    CRAIG CAMPBELL        Date:    03/25
From:   YVTS64A    CARRIE DAVIS          Time:    10:27 AM

   Craig-
         I saw Jim's note there to Donald also (before P*
took it away) and I can see why this Franci is so upset
about being accused falsely, just by seeing Jim's reaction
to Donald and Jim's accusation of you being in some Abby-
Archie-Craig Trinity.  Has he ever apologized to you for
doing that?  It's no wonder people react to this situation
the way that they do.  Donald's note here is fine. Jim
attacked it.  Scott Diamond asked me on another subject here
if I can see why this reaction is so, and my answer is No.
I see an innocent question being raised and Jim Ward
attacking the person.
    I hope you have a nice weekend Craig!
               Carrie


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Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     NHPC12A    JIM WARD              Date:    03/25
From:   YVTS64A    CARRIE DAVIS          Time:    10:55 AM

   Reply 4-  Don't even try it Jim Ward. I saw it too. P*
removed your post.  The only way that Craig could have
replied to your ID on this particular note was that in fact
there WAS a reply here from you to Donald Clarke.  I also
saw it.
          Carrie


===============   Reply    9 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     FHHA61A    D CLARKE              Date:    03/25
From:   YVTS64A    CARRIE DAVIS          Time:    10:56 AM

   Donald-  I too saw the reply from Jim Ward to you
(and as you can see from Craig's reply to Jim's ID, the post
WAS here.)  Maybe you should ask JIM WARD since he did write
the reply to you.  Now he writes some weird note to Craig
asking "what note?"   P* pulled his reply to you.
                   Carrie


===============   Reply   10 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     NHPC12A    JIM WARD              Date:    03/25
From:   FHHA61A    D CLARKE              Time:     2:47 PM

Jim, what exactly did you write to me that *P yanked. I am
not a pseudonym or stalker, although several Rush board
members and I did save up some posts and a 18+ ID list from
a stalker that originated on that board. I posted this
import because I didn't understand whick Frank Clark ID is
real and which one is a fake.


===============   Reply   11 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     NHPC12A    JIM WARD              Date:    03/25
From:   YVGP30B    JAMES ROHRBAUGH       Time:     5:38 PM

I'm not sure just what happened; maybe somebody posted a new
parent note to you and it accidently was inserted into this
note chain.  I've seen it happen where I post a reply to
someone and it comes out both as reply in the correct place
AND a new parent note.

James Rohrbaugh


===============   Reply   12 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     FHHA61A    D CLARKE              Date:    03/25
From:   DTPS48C    CRAIG CAMPBELL        Time:     6:21 PM

Donald: You'll need to ask Jim about that. His reply to you
was the first reply until Prodigy removed it.  That is why
you see my reply to him early in the replies.  He may wish
to pretend it wasn't there, he has a fantastic imagination.
Have fun dealing with him.


===============   Reply   13 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     YVTS64A    CARRIE DAVIS          Date:    03/25
From:   DTPS48C    CRAIG CAMPBELL        Time:     6:56 PM

Carrie: I know it was there also.  This is typical of Jim
Ward.  Prodigy removed his note and now he wants to act as
if it wasn't there.  Strange, isn't he?


===============   Reply   14 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     YVGP30B    JAMES ROHRBAUGH       Date:    03/25
From:   DTPS48C    CRAIG CAMPBELL        Time:     6:57 PM

James: Jim Ward's reply was there. That's how I was able to
reply to him. Prodigy removed his reply in the meantime. He
knows what he wrote.


===============   Reply   15 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     DTPS48C    CRAIG CAMPBELL        Date:    03/26
From:   YGKB17A    GARY FRANCIS          Time:     9:42 AM

Craig - Makes you go HMMMMMMM! I was accussed of being you
and find that offensive (nothing personal). But since I am
me and only post under my own name, Jim should have accused
you of being me (G). No wonder ASG is losing credability!!
Gary ------- Not Craig


===============   Reply   16 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     DTPS48C    CRAIG CAMPBELL        Date:    03/26
From:   YVGP30B    JAMES ROHRBAUGH       Time:     9:42 AM

OK, I see what's happened.  I posted my reply to him without
reading the rest of the replies in the chain, so I honestly
thought it was a mistake on PRODIGY's part.



                                      J Rohrbaugh


===============   Reply   17 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ID NAME MYSTERY

To:     YVTS64A    CARRIE DAVIS          Date:    03/26
From:   XRPP25A    SCOTT DIAMOND         Time:     9:42 AM

Carrie, Please don't misrepresent my words. Yes I asked you
if you could understand why Larry G might interpret your
note a certain way. I did not see the alleged note from Jim
so I do not know what it said. I might have agreed with you
if I had.

Scott
===============   Note     1              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:                ALL                   Date:    03/21
From:   YVGP30B    JAMES ROHRBAUGH       Time:     3:30 PM

If anybody could tell me what Mr. Clark's ID is, I would be
very grateful.  We have his notes saved on a floppy disk,
but are having trouble finding it.  Also, does he answer his
PRODIGY E-Mail?  If not, does he have any other e-mail
addresses?  I have seen two conflicting stories about Mr.
Clark, so somebody on this board is lying to the public..
I'm gonna find out who.         Thanks / James Rohrbaugh


===============   Reply    1 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     BNGE23B    ANDREA CONNORS        Date:    03/26
From:   NNFW54B    LAURIE POWELL         Time:     4:23 PM

Andrea, welcome to Prodigy and yes, there are many nice
members here. I personally have formed some very good
friendships from the bbs. Like any major place where people
gather, you have nice and not so nice, normal and not so
normal. Last spring I saw a note on the homelife bb from
Caroyln Fleming stating her young daughter had received some
sexually graphic email from an adult stranger. She called
P assuming they would take care of the problem, assuming all
members are here with their legit names and addresses. After
not getting very far internally working on the problem, she
posted what had happened, her frustration at trying to work
with P and a warning to other parents to keep an eye on
their kids on the bbs, and their email. Many of us posted a
note stating we were shocked it happened and disappointed
she didnt get very far with P in solving it. At that point I
began to see very nasty notes from a variety of IDS and
names, most of them terminated by P because they were fakes.
Being terminated didnt stop the person from posting  and
stalking members to where ever they wrote, or other
services. They bragged about having thousands of free kits,
there by having instant access and inserting any name they
wanted. This person also sent a very sexually graphic email
to apx 40 people describing what he would like to do with my
young teen son. I had already been the victim of his threats
and nasty post as well as other email. I also went to P as
well to the FBI. The suspect in our case was already being
investigated for credit card fraud by Det Frank Clark of the
Fresno PD. Det Clark is an expert in computer crime, and the
suspect lives in his area. In addition to the email sent
to and about children, this person has committed credit card
fraud against P, sent a fax to one persons place of business
in an attempt to get him fired, succeeded in getting another
member fired from their job, used another members address to
have bills from various fakes names sent to for his prodigy
membership, and taken the stalking off line as well. I wont
go into detail on what that encompasses here. It is still a
very active investigation and the reason an arrest has not
been made is in part because this service does not verify
you are who you say you are. You can come on line with any
name, give any address, any phone number and any cc number
and they dont bother to check out the information before
giving you the password. We needed only a few simple things
for an arrest to be made, 1. WHO ordered the kits that were
used by the suspect 2. What address were those kits sent to
3. What name was used on those kits 4. What address was
given at sign up 5. WHERE was the bill sent to. Prodigy was
unable to furnish that info to the police. So, this person
still remains free to target others, including children.
This is how he gets his jollies. When joining this service I
just assumed we all were who we said we were. I am very
disappointed that the suspect is still able to do what he
does best and get away with it. This is not a nice person
and not a normal person in my book. The story has been
written up by some news papers, trade mags and other things
coming out next wk ( another news paper, another trade mag)
Lets hope this will wake up the public and make P see the
need for REAL member verification. Laurie


===============   Reply    2 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     GNWC49C    LARRY GREENBERG       Date:    03/26
From:   KSMA41A    ABBINOR FEIR CCP      Time:     7:32 PM

Greenberg, Last I heard from the ol' group of seven their
was no suspect. How can you apprehend someone who doesn't
exist?

        Abbinor


===============   Reply    3 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    FRANK CLARK?

To:     YVGP30B    JAMES ROHRBAUGH       Date:    03/26
From:   KSMA41A    ABBINOR FEIR CCP      Time:     7:32 PM

It would seen that Frank has abbandoned the stalker issue. I
fugured that it wouldn't take him long to catch on to a hoax
when he saw one.

 Abbinor

===============   Note     1              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:                ALL                   Date:    05/13
From:   PROD50A    JERRY LAUBHAN         Time:     5:38 PM

Last week's Eye To Eye broadcast has generated considerable
interest on this board. We want to share with you some key
points that weren't made clear in the show.

Contrary to some of the thoughts expressed,  Prodigy does
care very much about the safety of its members.  When
concerns were first expressed, we investigated and canceled
a number of offending IDs on a case-by-case basis.  This
goes back more than a year. When our investigation turned up
possible credit-card fraud, we took it to the Fresno police
last July.  We pursued the credit-card fraud case because
any case for electronic harassment would have to be brought
forward by the harassed individuals.

We've been cooperating with the Fresno police ever since we
initiated the case. When we were asked to provide police
with evidence, it was unclear on both sides exactly what
would be involved in defining and proving a new, high-tech
variety of a standard kind of criminal activity.  Over the
next few months, we devoted considerable time and resources
to compiling a large amount of data.

As it turned out, the police -- with tremendous demands on
their time -- were unable to use the data in the form we
provided it. So we worked with them to create a more
concise, flexible database. This was completed early this
year.  We continue working together in response to the
District Attorney's investigative request, and we hope our
joint efforts will bring the case to a rapid conclusion.
There's also been some discussion about new membership
validation and the fact that the CBS reporter apparently was
able to obtain a PRODIGY membership with fraudulent
information, as he could do with any on-line service.

That was possible because no validation process is
instantaneous. Like other services, we check new memberships
over a period of time -- and we're working on shortening
that time.  We've also continued to enhance the process by
requiring credit cards for the Member-Get-A-Member program,
where most of the alleged problems occurred. And we have
developed an early-warning program that flags troublesome
activities with new accounts so they can be nipped in the
bud. This program is in place, and working, as I write this.

The use of credit cards doesn't -- as has been suggested --
provide a complete solution.  Fraudulent credit card use is
widespread in our society. And even a valid credit card does
not measure character; an occasional bad apple can still
slip under the bar.

That's why Prodigy has taken a number of approaches to
membership validation, and continually works to further
improve our processes.
There have been a number of suggestions here as to actions
that Prodigy should take. We appreciate these, some of which
are already under consideration. We believe this kind of
teamwork is key to making Prodigy a better service. We
welcome your help in assuring undesirable individuals don't
bother others. That help will enable us to provide an
enjoyable, valuable and safe online environment.

Jerry Laubhan, Director, Member Services


===============   Reply    1 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     PROD50A    JERRY LAUBHAN         Date:    05/13
From:   XRPP25A    SCOTT DIAMOND         Time:     7:15 PM

Well Jerry, Much of that is nice to hear, but it leaves many
question unanswered. For example. Even though I agree it
would be up to the harased members to pursue a case for
harassment, why did P* put roadblocks in the way of the
parties contacting each other. It is my understanding that
the harassed members were told nothing about Det Clark and
that law officers did not want to contact them. Can you
please address that issue?
Also unanswered is why it has taken more than a year to put
some of the verification procedures you have in place? Many
of these procedures could have been done immediately.
I also have to question your statements about the
information provided to Det Clark. It just seems that
computer programming could have solved this problem in a lot
more timely fashion.

Scott


===============   Reply    2 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     PROD50A    JERRY LAUBHAN         Date:    05/13
From:   GNWC49A    EVELYN MC HUGH        Time:     7:46 PM

Jerry: You try very hard to make it appear that this service
cooperated with the police investigation. Why haven't you
commented upon the fact that this service deliberately
refused to pass the name of the detective they called in to
the victims when he requested it? Why did a representative
of this service tell SEVERAL members that the detective did
not want us to contact him, and refused to tell those
members who the investigator was? Why did this service fail
to furnish some very clearly requested information until
AFTER they were contacted by Eye-to-Eye and knew that there
was to be a story on this case?

Sorry, but the credibility of this service in my eyes is
absolutely zero. Right now, on this subject, a member that
was terminated from this service is back. He is posting in a
manner that is unmistakable, and was noticed by several
people with the first few notes he posted. He is still here,
a week after Prodigy Security was notified. How can we
honestly believe any claims regarding verfication when the
proof that whatever the "secret process" is, it is not
working, is on this board in plain view.

This is a subject that does not need more public relations
attempts. This is a subject that needs acceptance of
responsibility and an active campaign to control the
problems online. By Prodigy's own poll, an estimated 180,000
members out of the estimated enrollment have had the
experience of being harassed online. Are those 180,000
people not important enough to this service to have their
right to use it constantly abridged by the creeps, perverts
and criminals that this service still lets online? Doesn't
9% of the membership deserve the right to use this service
in peace - and not to be lied to or made to feel that their
problems are inconsequecial because "only a small number of
members ever experience problems online"?

If Prodigy had put as much effort into dealing with these
problems as it has put into trying to convince the victims
and the general membership that it was "working on it", this
entire story would have been over last summer. A 17-year-old
exchange student would probably not have been molested. The
attempted extortion against Larry Greenberg's employer would
have never taken place. And a lot of people would have never
had to endure insults and threats to their safety.

Why those things were permitted to occur is what you should
be here explaining. Why aren't you?


                  epm  - 05/13 07:20 pm


===============   Reply    3 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     PROD50A    JERRY LAUBHAN         Date:    05/14
From:   KXTK32B    C BUMPAS              Time:     9:37 AM

Mr. Laubhan,
             while I'm sure it is in your best interests to
have the general membership think that you and the Prodigy
staff have been doing your best to stop all this, I must say
that I will have to disagree with you on the way this is
being handled by Prodigy.
 Now of course I do NOT know what everyone there is doing
to end this, but I DO know that there ARE some people at
Prodigy who are very annoyed that the VICTIMS have contacted
them, to complain about it.

 Once when I spoke to Alex Bidwell on the telephone, I
specifically ASKED him to come online here, in this subject,
if for no other reason than to state PUBLICALLY that this IS
a very real problem, Prodigy is aware of it and that there
is an ONGOING investigation into the issue. I thought that
if nothing else, if a Prodigy rep came on and posted this
TRUTH, then maybe that would stop the constant lies being
posted here from people saying "these people are lying, they
are making this up to sue Prodigy" and things of that
nature.
 Alex Bidwell then told me, "well, we have addressed on line
saftey in the past, what MORE do you want us to do?"

 What MORE? Well, the least he, or SOMEONE could have done,
is contact the id's here who are STILL insulting and flaming
and told them in no uncertain terms, to "be advised" that
this IS a very real and very serious issue. Or better yet,
make a PUBLIC statement, that the victims here ARE telling
the truth about what has happened. Then at least that way,
more and more people may not have been inclined to "wonder"
who is telling the truth and who's not.

 Prodigy has left the victims of the harassment left out
here to defend our names, over and over again.

 Believe it or not, I DO like the service, for SOME of the
convienences it provides, but I will NEVER promote it to
anyone who may be considering and online service, UNTIL you
people clean it up in the bb department.     Carla Bumpas


===============   Reply    4 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     PROD50A    JERRY LAUBHAN         Date:    05/14
From:   FXDF64A    JOHN DIMARTINO        Time:     9:49 AM


      Jerry: Thanks for the reply. At least we now know that
a new program for controlling new accounts is in place. Hope
you have some success.
                              JP. DM


===============   Reply    5 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     PROD50A    JERRY LAUBHAN         Date:    05/14
From:   GNWC49C    LARRY GREENBERG       Time:    10:05 AM

Jerry, the best comment on your 'statement", IMHO,  is a
direct quote from our 16th President:

"You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some
of the people all of the time, but you can never fool all of
the people all of the time."  Substitute the word "members"
for the word "people".  Yes Jerry, they know.


===============   Reply    6 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     GNWC49A    EVELYN MC HUGH        Date:    05/14
From:   GPTX33B    ROBERT THACKER        Time:     6:06 PM

Evelyn, let me tell you a story to add to your list so to
speak.  It is a story that Prodigy of course has very little
control over.  The little control they did have was to step
in and warn all members to stop....an "advisory".  The
advisory was finally done, but about six months too late.
There was a deputy sheriff in Charlottesville, Virginia, a
good friend of mine, who bought a new computer in 1992.
It included the Prodigy software and start up kit.  He had
never heard of Prodigy, but signed up anyway.  He browsed
around on Prodigy for about a month before finding the
police topic in the Careers BB.  He started to particiapte
in that topic and was cordially received.  He became very
popular with his charm and humor.  He was even elected "da
Prodigy Sheriff" right online by popular vote.  He provided
the police topic with a mixture of humor and business all
rolled into one.  Great guy!  Then all of a sudden several
of the members felt he was infringing on the popularity they
had enjoyed before his arrival.  So those several obtained 
start up kits, created accounts with his name on them, and
tried to humiliate him and make him look like a fool in an
effort to get rid of him.  After about five or six of these
pseudonym kits had been opened with his name on them, he
finally lost his temper and told one of the accounts to kiss
certain parts of his anatomy.  The same person also opened a
start up kit account and identified themselves as a Monica
Martin, a nurse in a San Diego emergency room.  This Monica
Martin befriended a female ex cop in California.  The ex cop
confided personal things to this Monica Martin.  And then
all of a sudden this Monica Martin "confessed" to being 
the deputy sheriff in Charlottesville, Virginia supposedly.
It was not the deputy sheriff, but merely the same person in
Tennessee who had opened accounts using the deputy sheriff's
name.  This combination of devious activities committed by
this person finally was instrumental in getting the deputy
sheriff kicked off of Prodigy.  And the deputy sheriff had
done nothing but make the mistake of being popular.  That is
not the end of the story though as you might think.  The
female ex cop assumed that the Monica Martin account was in
fact the deputy sheriff, as the holder of the account
confessed to this.  She mounted a ruthless attack against 
the deputy sheriff's career.  She called his sheriff day and
night filing complaints that the deputy sheriff was crazy
and had no business carrying a gun and badge.  This vicious
attack has gone on for almost 18 months now.  The latest
complaint called into the deputy's office was just a month
ago.  The deputy sheriff has been a member of the sheriff's
office for 21 years and is well known and liked in his
community.  When push came to shove it was proven that the
ex cop was the mental case, and of course not the deputy.
She is on her fourth ID number in the last twelve months at
the present time and still allowed to participate on Prodigy
after all the attacks and disruption she has been allowed to
create on the police topic of the Careers BB.  A young lady
representing NBC has been in touch with this deputy sheriff
(she attended college in his home town), and is attempting
to get together a special on cyberspace.  They are scheduled
to shoot in mid June in Charlottesville, Virginia as of now.
The deputy's attorney has advised against the shoot because
there is civil litigation pending against this ex cop in
California at the present time.  Prodigy has no idea what is
going on out here in the real world.  They need to wake up
on second thought........before it's too late.

===============   Note     1              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     DRVR33A    RAY KUEHNE            Date:    05/13
From:   MBKM45A    IAN FRAIGUN CCP       Time:     2:29 PM

Ray,  how can you be sure of what CBS was going to do if
Mark had given an interview?  Unless you are one of the
producers of the show please don't make comments about what
they would have done only about what they did do.  They do
edit all interviews including the ones with Larry, Evelyn,
and Laurie as well as the Prodigy representative and Det
Clark.  That is standard because they do several hours of
interviewing to come up with a 15 minutes or so segment.
If you want to comment on that editing please do, but
please stop insinuating how they would have handled an
interview of another person because you just don't know
what would have happened.
Ian Fraigun, CCP     Genie/I.Fraigun     CIS/70424,57
5/13/94 10:13AM ET


===============   Reply    1 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     MBKM45A    IAN FRAIGUN CCP       Date:    05/13
From:   XRPP25A    SCOTT DIAMOND         Time:     7:15 PM

Hi Ian, Another thing that has been widely commented on is
the supposed "media circus" that accompanied the arrest.
Since the only thing I saw was one camera and one reporter,
I think that hardly qualifies as a "media circus". I am not
sure I like the idea of the press being present at the
arrest, but then again, maybe that would prevent some abuse
of the suspect.       Scott


===============   Reply    2 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     XRPP25A    SCOTT DIAMOND         Date:    05/14
From:   KNBE12B    MYRLE WILLIAMS        Time:     9:52 AM

The same poster who has "proclaimed" Mark's story as a
"media" circus has changed her last name on her ID AND
requested that her name be removed from the P* member
list...  sounds like all their complaints are "SYMBOLISM
OVER SUBSTANCE".


===============   Reply    3 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     XRPP25A    SCOTT DIAMOND         Date:    05/14
From:   MBKM45A    IAN FRAIGUN CCP       Time:     6:14 PM

Scott,  you are right there is no circus here.  Have you
seen the arrests shown on the news where there were cameras
from every single network and local TV station and all the
radio stations.  Some of those have had 60-70 people
involved in reporting the arrest and guess what, it did not
taint the prosecution in any way since those arrested in
some of those cases are now convicted and serving very very
long prison terms.  A single reporter, single camera and
maybe a sound man does not deprive anyone of their rights
and in no way will influence the ability to convict someone
of criminal activity if that activity is properly proven.
Ian Fraigun, CCP     Genie/I.Fraigun     CIS/70424,57
5/14/94 5:04PM ET

===============   Note     1              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     GCKY97A    MICHAEL FRAZIER       Date:    05/12
From:   HMJH86A    LARRY JANDRO          Time:     4:09 PM

 Michael,  Neither of the "Greenberg" names on "the list"
were the names created by Archie.  The ID's are not the
correct ones... (Archie's DFWC ID's...)
 The ID's on the list (MHNN... & WVKR...) are unknown to me.

Larry J. *** Using BBnM Beta ***  5/12/94 3:09PM ET


===============   Reply    1 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     HMJH86A    LARRY JANDRO          Date:    05/12
From:   GNWC49C    LARRY GREENBERG       Time:     6:40 PM

Larry, those IDs were used by "Vito" last year (April-June
time frame) along with others with names like "Caroline
Fleming", "Carolyne Fleming","Evie McHuge", "Babes McHuge",
and others of their ilk.  .


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Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     GNWC49C    LARRY GREENBERG       Date:    05/13
From:   UXUK31A    ELAINE VICKERS        Time:     8:50 AM

Larry, please answer me...no one else seems to know. What IS
prodigy going to do about all those fake kits/disks he had
in his possession by dates??? Will they prosecute? Or they
will not prosecute even if vito is never taken to court?
What? No wonder everyone is doing the bad things they are
doing. they are following vito's poor example, and prodigy's
helping all the way., it looks like


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Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     HMJH86A    LARRY JANDRO          Date:    05/13
From:   GCKY97A    MICHAEL FRAZIER       Time:    12:00 PM

Thank you for checking what "Greenberg" names are on "the
list".  I have never "seen" that list, other than the fact
that I watched the live tv broadcast.  I accept your
statement that the Chicago impersonation of the REAL (Larry)
Greenberg, distinguished anti-stalker, was not on "the
list".


===============   Reply    4 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     GNWC49C    LARRY GREENBERG       Date:    05/13
From:   GCKY97A    MICHAEL FRAZIER       Time:     2:29 PM

Your note states that "Vito" used several "Greenberg" fake
names along about April-June last year, and that apparently
those were the instances in which your same actual surname
was put onto that list, whatever the list was.  The name
"Greenberg" (your name) was also used approximately Jan-Feb
of this year, by an id who put it onto his sub-ids and
posted some idiotic notes designed? to make "Greenberg" look
like an idiot.


===============   Reply    5 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     UXUK31A    ELAINE VICKERS        Date:    05/13
From:   UVEF05A    J HUPF                Time:     3:48 PM

I have not really been following this thread from the start
- I left off at the end of December and just came back 5/6
so I may have missed something - Wheree was it disclosed
that the disks/starter kits were fake, as in forgery or
unauthorized duplication?  What I have read all seemed to
imply that the prodigy disks/startup kits referred to in
thse threads all were legit and made by/for prodigy as
part of promotions to attract new members - at one time
prodigy sent people out ot local SIG's withcases of these
things and they flowed to the members and visitors to
meetings and computer fairs like water - I have a massive
collection of diske that I received and use for back ups by
punching a hole in them to defeat the write protection of
the originall disks - in fact it got to the point that our
SIG was so deep in prodigy disks that they were the standard
media for our members to use for their back up files!

 ???????????????????????? J ?????????????????????


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Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     UVEF05A    J HUPF                Date:    05/13
From:   UXUK31A    ELAINE VICKERS        Time:     8:46 PM

These were all new prodigy INSTALLATION DISKS, as in "free
kits", bogus, one person, different names, et al


===============   Reply    7 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     UXUK31A    ELAINE VICKERS        Date:    05/14
From:   UVEF05A    J HUPF                Time:     9:46 AM

Then what you said in the second reply in this thread is not
correct and the disks and start up kits were not "FAKE" but
legitimate prodigy disks and start up kits made for prodigy
to use in promoting its service.


===============   Note     2              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     YGKB17A    GARY FRANCIS          Date:    05/13
From:   NXNF19A    RENA MILLER           Time:     2:23 PM

Gary:  I have been posting off and on in this subject for
months, and sorry but I totally disagree with your analogy
of " either you are with them or against them in their
opinion."  Iam not one of "their" devout followers and yet I
have never been attacked by any of "them" I have voiced my
opinions both PRO and Con, and the only ones that I have
been attacked by (and yes even threatned through EMail) is
AL and RW (no RW did not threaten through EMail) she
resented vehemently me having an opposing opinion to hers.
I will admit to perhaps agitating the verbal confrontation
between us, especially after her remark about "Chester the
Molester"   I constantly read where the opposition to the
victims are constantly being "attacked" because they
disagree with them IMHO NOT SO!  It has been said many times
before and I will repeat it, it is quite obvious to anyone
that has been reading this subject for any length of time,
that some of our "dear departed" have not departed at all.
Again IMO these are some of the ones that are being shown as
who and what they really are, therefore to some new readers
it would appear that "new members" are being picked on. NOT
SO!  All the above is purely my own thoughts, and I think
Iam pretty much on target.  Have a great day!

                            TAKE CARE, RENA


===============   Note     3              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:                ALL                   Date:    05/13
From:   TKDC29B    MARY ESTERSON         Time:     2:23 PM

To All Members who have been victims of any crimes, such as:
stalking, obscene e-mail, harrassment. Please reply and tell
your story. I am trying to put together a small portfolio to
be shown to officials in my state. I also advize any other
members to copy these replies and send them to anyone who
you think can get the ball rolling to make on-line services
safe.                                               Mary


===============   Note     4              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     WNMC17A    LAWRENCE GAMM         Date:    05/14
From:   MBKM45A    IAN FRAIGUN CCP       Time:    10:11 AM

Larry,  the interviews with Evelyn and Larry lasted 8 hours
and look what you got to see and hear....   Same thing on
all sides of this issue.  The interview for much longer
than they ever can plan on airing to make sure the have
enough quality comments for the time slot allowed.
Ian Fraigun, CCP     Genie/I.Fraigun     CIS/70424,57
5/14/94 1:42AM ET


===============   Note     5              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:                ALL                   Date:    05/14
From:   AVHX80A    BRENDA THACKER        Time:    11:52 AM

I attempted to read all the notes and replies in this
subject.  I finally realized I didn't have until 1998 to do
so.  But one thing did stick out in my mind as I skimmed
through the numerous notes and replies.  Everybody keeps
mentioning that Prodigy performs no "verification checks".
That, ladies and gentlemen, is just not so.  As soon as I
joined Prodigy several months ago I was called by Prodigy
and welcomed as a new member.  I feel certain they used the
phone number supplied by me, and possibly ran checks on my
address and phone number.  Want to know why I feel this way?
When I signed on I gave them my five digit zip code.  I did
not actually know my nine digit zip code.  But I noticed
when Prodigy started mailing my bills and literature they in
fact knew my nine digit zip code.
Another interesting point.......they requested that my C
member provide proof of identification to them.  It seems
that a Mark Smith complained that my grandchild could not
possibly have the same name as he.  There's a zillion
Mark Smiths even on the Prodigy membership list, but this
other paranoid Mark Smith complained anyway.  Well, Prodigy
did the best thing they could do anyway, requested ID from
my Mark Smith.  Prodigy is listening to it's members
suggestions and complaints.  Another very interesting fact
of which I have personal knowledge.  The name "Shifflett" is
very common in the central Virginia area.  There are
literally thousands and thousands of "Shiffletts" in this
area.  But everytime a "Shifflett" joins Prodigy he/she  is
immediately terminated because Prodigy assumes it is a
person they removed from the service several years ago.
The "Shifflett" in question was removed from the Prodigy
service for losing his temper and using ONE four letter word
in a public reply to another member who was opening
pseudonym kits using the "real Shifflett's" name and
address.  This whole incident occured over on the Careers
BB, Police Topic where there are several mental case
Stalkers running rampant.  Many of them claim to be ex-cops
to get there foot in the door.  Many of them claim to be
presently employed cops to get in the door.  Prodigy finally
sent in one of their best and most experienced board leaders
to clean up the mess over there.  Yes, ladies and gentlemen,
Prodigy makes some good decisions and they make some bad
decisions.  But they do the best they can with a membership
in the millions.
The point of my letter is this.  At the time I felt calling
me was a nice thing to do for a new member.  But after
reading this subject I now realize it was nothing more than
an attempt to verify that I was who I said I was and that
the information provided by me was correct.  I commend
Prodigy for this extra effort, an effort that must cost them
thousands of dollars daily in long distance calls no less.
                    Brenda Thacker, GPTX33A and AVHX80A

===============   Note     1              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:                ALL                   Date:    05/05
From:   GCKY97A    MICHAEL FRAZIER       Time:     9:01 PM

THURSDAY EVENING, MAY 05, 7:45 PM EDT:
CBS Evening News (Connie Chung & Dan Rather) presented a
promotional announcement for Eye-to-Eye (coming up here at 9
p.m.), complete with pictures of a woman who considers
herself bedeviled by an ON-LINE STALKER.  It was during a
series of commercials near the end of the newscast.


===============   Reply    1 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     GCKY97A    MICHAEL FRAZIER       Date:    05/06
From:   FKNW85D    J THERIAULT V III     Time:    10:01 AM

Yup, I saw it a few min ago. Some guy named vito. Man, shows
how p* needs TONS more security. The Chairpersonsaid they
validate everone, but for all p* members out there, how many
have been validated. I know I haven`t. Just Check my name
out ( My firend played with my ID)

                               Jason Theriault


===============   Reply    2 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     GCKY97A    MICHAEL FRAZIER       Date:    05/06
From:   YGKX53A    SHERREE VIDA          Time:    10:04 AM

Hi Michael,
   That was SOME story wasn't it? I bet this board lights up
over it. I guess this will finally put to rest, the doubters
that this is REAL and what Evelyn and Larry and all the rest
have been saying, was TRUE. It amazes me however how Johnson
was able to get off on basically a technicality. What about
Prodigy's responses to their verification process, and then
the guy doing the interview, told her that he had signed on
with a fake address and phone number, and nothing was asked
from him in the way of verification. I think it's time
Prodigy stop telling everyone "their working on it" and
actually do something. Good story, and refreshing to see
that Det. Clark is real, and the victims are not the "witch
hunting" "vigialantes" that some others have labeled them.
Thanks to them, law officials are now looking at these
crimes, and realizing that something has to be instituted to
prevent other Mark Johnsons from doing the things that he
did.                        Sherrree


===============   Reply    3 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     GCKY97A    MICHAEL FRAZIER       Date:    05/06
From:   KKNB35A    RON WANGEROW          Time:    10:14 AM

Good show! It was very interesting to learn of this. Let
this be a lesson to all of us on *P, or any of the other
services, to be careful what info re ourselves we give out
on public boards (or in e-mail, too, for that matter, if we
don't know/trust the recipient very well). As is so often
the cold hard fact in so many areas of life, here's just
another example of a sleazebag rotten apple spoiling things
for everyone else. Let's hope that the police are finally
able to nail this S.O.B.!!!!


===============   Reply    4 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     GCKY97A    MICHAEL FRAZIER       Date:    05/06
From:   KNBE12B    MYRLE WILLIAMS        Time:    10:14 AM

I watched that show with great interest.  I posted a note
on here after the show to Larry...but NOW find it is gone.
There was no message from P* that the note was being removed
or moved, etc....I wonder what happened.  I am also curious
about the "lack" of activity after 9:00PM last night on
here. My note "vanished" I wonder how many others did???
MY VOTE: LARRY, EVELYN and LAURIE  1      PRODIGY  0


===============   Reply    5 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     GCKY97A    MICHAEL FRAZIER       Date:    05/06
From:   MBKM45A    IAN FRAIGUN CCP       Time:    11:58 AM

Mike,  even more scary was the fact that here in Los
Angeles on the regular news following Connie Chung was the
story of a Pedophile who was arrested in Glendora, a
community in the San Gabriel valley east of LA, who as
mentioned had used Prodigy as a method of finding his
victims.  There are as has been stated many times more
problems on this service than just the Mark Johnson
activities.
Ian Fraigun, CCP     Genie/I.Fraigun     CIS/70424,57
5/6/94 10:50AM ET


===============   Reply    6 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     MBKM45A    IAN FRAIGUN CCP       Date:    05/06
From:   GCKY97A    MICHAEL FRAZIER       Time:     7:30 PM

Ian, I am visiting a distant city, and I found that there
was a "stalker avoidance" report, following the Eye-to-Eye
show, on the local news evening 11 p.m. show.  Meanwhile,
however, I am forwarding to MAIL00B, an e-mail (which I
haven't read) from "Archie L." entitled "Hi, Moron!".  I
don't know whether it is a Prodigy message, or an Internet
message.  I don't accept incoming Internet COD, of course.


===============   Reply    7 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     KNBE12B    MYRLE WILLIAMS        Date:    05/06
From:   TCNS01A    ROBERT BOHANNON       Time:     7:30 PM

Myrlie,
       After 9:00 PM the M.E.BB isshut down for the night.
       You can still read but you can't add new posts on it.
       I have been told that it is the only board that does
        shut down at night.

                                   Robert


===============   Reply    8 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     YGKX53A    SHERREE VIDA          Date:    05/06
From:   SXDB96A    JANICE SNOW           Time:     8:15 PM

Sherree, Thanks to members like you that believed, the other
members here will someday be able to feel safe. Hopefully
there will be laws passed to make sure that every national
service verifys it's members.
Maybe someday, I'll even trust enough to "talk" on different
topics again. Not now while Vito is still free, and I'm
still getting CODS from Archie, but maybe later. Janice


===============   Reply    9 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     KNBE12B    MYRLE WILLIAMS        Date:    05/07
From:   GNWC49C    LARRY GREENBERG       Time:     9:56 AM

Myrle, if we indeed struck a blow last night, the score
should read:
The Decent PAYING Membership of Prodigy that Never Bargained
to be Stalked and Harassed                              1
Stalkers, Flamers, Online Terrorists, and Spin Doctors  0.

Its only just beginning.


===============   Reply   10 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     HNGX37A    F STUCKEY             Date:    05/07
From:   WRNV00A    RICHARD BEEBOUT       Time:    11:04 AM

nope - but it does bring to mind that episode about 'trucks
that were fire-prone' aired by one of the major networks.
 we have a judicial system and some laws in this country,
albeit wanting.   but, after a fashion, they work.
 i _do_ have a problem with electronic 'vigilanties' tho,
and doubt if they have appropriate facts.  just mho...
 05/07/94 10:18 am        dick,lex,ky***


===============   Reply   11 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     GNWC49C    LARRY GREENBERG       Date:    05/07
From:   KXRG60B    HAZEL BARROW          Time:     4:48 PM

Larry,  No!!  It is not over. And there will be no war. And
the full truth will be known. I do sincerely hope this mess
does end up in a court of law and then everyone can see the
whole ugly picture for themselves. BTW, I sure hope Prodigy
never gets the kind of police patrol that you and other COLD
members want. Oh, forgot that it is no longer COLD. Well,
you changed the name but not the game...Hazel


===============   Reply   12 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     SXDB96A    JANICE SNOW           Date:    05/08
From:   YGKX53A    SHERREE VIDA          Time:    10:12 AM

Janice,
   Despite the fact that some people are still making light
of this story, the fact remains that many more now know the
truth of what has happened, and that's all that really
matters at this point. We have all learned over these past
months that there will always be those who take it with a
grain of salt, luckily some (most) of us, take it for what
it's worth, and that it is a serious situation that can not
be over looked. Congratulations to you and all the others
for your dedication in seeing that this story finally made
it to national T.V. Bet it blew the roof off over at
Prodigy's headquarters, maybe now, they'll do something
about it. TTYL

Sherree


===============   Reply   13 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     YGKX53A    SHERREE VIDA          Date:    05/09
From:   SXDB96A    JANICE SNOW           Time:     9:44 AM

Sherree, If you think the roof is blown now, wait awhile.
Eye to Eye did not air all. Legally, they couldn't until it
gets into a court of law. Hopefully soon, very soon, all can
be told.
Will some people be very surprised! We tried to tell 'em.
They chose to ignore. Not our fault! (SEG)
                                  Janice


===============   Reply   14 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     YGKX53A    SHERREE VIDA          Date:    05/09
From:   NNFW54B    LAURIE POWELL         Time:    11:17 AM

Sherree, THANK YOU. It was NOT the way we wanted the problem
handled and begged Prodigy for help. They made their choice,
we made ours. I am very grateful to EYE to EYE for
contacting us, Det Clark for sticking to it, and to all of
you for the support. I hope Prodigy is getting the message,
WE WANT VERIFICATION AND WE WANT THEM TO HELP PUT THE
STALKER IN JAIL.  Laurie


===============   Reply   15 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     SXDB96A    JANICE SNOW           Date:    05/09
From:   FKNF40A    JAMES STOLIN          Time:    12:36 PM

Janice,
   Are you talkin about the charges of attempted sodomy and
oral copulation with a minor? Maybe CBS did not air them on
the STALKER program to protect the minor. Or maybe there is
going to be a followup.
Jim - Illinois Computer Service 05/09 10:40 am


===============   Reply   16 of Note    1 =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     FKNF40A    JAMES STOLIN          Date:    05/10
From:   SXDB96A    JANICE SNOW           Time:    10:51 AM

Jim, I wasn't talking about those charges. Those have to be
handled differently.
I was talking about the real truth finally being able to be
told publically after all this time. It will come out,
eventually. We have waited this long......what's a little
longer.
                                       Janice


===============   Note     2              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:                ALL                   Date:    05/06
From:   HHTK07A    MARCEL HART           Time:     9:56 AM

I congratulate all of you people in this stalker topic who
worked long and hard to bring a criminal to justice, often
at the expense of being ridiculed by the unenlightened.  I
saw the spot on CBSs "Eye to Eye" on the arrest of the
stalker.  I noticed they mentioned several of the posters
here along with Detective Clark.  I wonder what the
detractors will say now?


===============   Note     3              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:                ALL                   Date:    05/06
From:   WCTA64B    VICTORIA CHRISTIAN    Time:    10:12 AM

I just watched the EYE to EYE segment.  I immediately began
reading this subject and the EYE to EYE subject for the
first time.  As a New Member I was horrified to find that
this kind of thing can happen.  I guess it is my BB
naivete.  I was disturbed by the P* reps seeming lack of
concern and "pat" can't do anything answers, not ot mention
the innuendo that P* was not completely helpful in the
investigation of these "stalkings".  How can they say that
they were unable to provide the information needed? or did I
miss something?  I remember reading warnings from P* about
not using a Pseudonym and not using threatening, abusive or
obsene language, yet the rep stated that P* couldn't do
anything about it.  I am truly confused.  I know that when
my husband and I joined P* last month we were called by P*
2 days later to see how we were enjoying the service and if
we needed any help AND when I went over my allotted 2 hours
of PLUS time, we were CUTOFF "because it was unusual
activity for a New Member".  We had to call with a security
number to be placed back on-line.  I didn't mind this,
as it seemed like good business practice, but now I wonder
is this part of their new verification procedure?  If so, it
doesn't seem like enough in view of this subject matter.
After all, the only reason I went over the 2 hours was that
I hadn't found the Import/Export info until too late.  A
problem that "fakes", "stalkers", etc. wouldn't have.  I
know that I will be VERY careful about what I say on a BB
(I haven't given away anything have I?) from now on.


===============   Note     4              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:                ALL                   Date:    05/07
From:   GCKY97A    MICHAEL FRAZIER       Time:    10:22 AM

"HI MORON!"
The following is a verbatim copy of the message header on an
OFFENSIVE E-MAIL MESSAGE, entitled "Hi Moron!", that came to
my Prodigy mailbox.  I tried to FORWARD the message to
MAIL00B, but that could not be done.  The sender of the
message has a pseudonym that I have seen previously in this
board.

       -------- Original message header follows --------
      From [email protected]  Fri May 06 15:29:35 1994
[PIM 3.0-118.49]
      Received: from rci.ripco.com by inetgate.prodigy.com
with SMTP id AA13590
        (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ([email protected])); Fri, 6
May 1994 15:29:33 -0400
      Received: from golden.ripco.com by rci.ripco.com with
smtp
              (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0pzVXZ-000JoXB; Fri, 6
May 94 14:26 CDT
      Received: by golden.ripco.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #17)
              id m0pzVXX-000VTQC; Fri, 6 May 94 14:26 CDT
      Message-Id: ([email protected])
      From: [email protected] (Archie L.)
      Subject: Hi Moron!
      To: [email protected]
      Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 14:26:26 -0500 (CDT)
      Mime-Version: 1.0
      Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
      Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
      Content-Length: 223


===============   Note     5              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:                ALL                   Date:    05/07
From:   BPBU58A    R JOHNSON             Time:     1:57 PM

Has anybody considered this:

Maybe the Stalker or Stalkers is WITHIN *P? How else did
someone get access to all this information? How else did
someone get all the kits? Has *P investigated this? Why or
why not? I bet there is some link to *P personnel,
materials, databases or something that gives the Stalker
the MEANS to get this information.

What do you think about this?


===============   Note     6              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     WNMC17A    LAWRENCE GAMM         Date:    05/07
From:   XKAU44B    KELLY CAPUTO          Time:     4:05 PM

Larry,
  Here's the portion of the tape from the Eye To Eye show
about "Message From Vito" that shows your name and Ray's and
has a number of us who saw it very concerned.
  BILL L: "Who is terrorizing Larry and Evelyn? His victims
know him well by his computer signature."
  EVELYN: "Vito"
   LARRY: "It's Vito again."

   BILL: "Vito" ((At this point a scrolling of ID #s and
last names and the word STALKER appear on the tv screen))
(The innocent ID# and name GAMM  and name KUEHNE and the
word STALKER scroll by and reporter is still talking)
        "He's used other made up names but Vito is his
favorite and he's been at it for at least a year, targeting
not just Evelyn and Larry, but a host of Prodigy members
across..."
          [I'll stop here Larry because this is the part of
the show that concerns me greatly and others from what I can
see in the various replies in this subject.]


    BILL is correspondant "Bill Lagattuta"
  The Segment is called "Message From Vito"
  Produced By: Terry Wood
  Edited By:  Herb Bennett

     I wish you and Ray all the best Larry.  I think this
was a horrible unjustice.


===============   Note     7              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     XTTA32A    J KENNEDY             Date:    05/08
From:   NNFW54B    LAURIE POWELL         Time:    10:47 AM

Hi, I am just reading the bb since Wed night as my husband
was very badly injured in a head on collison Thursday. I
only saw the show for the first time yesterday. I didnt
think it came off as tabloid tv and it was important to me
that it didnt. I also dont agree you saw 3 members ( myself
is included in your 3 I would guess) promoting themselves.
First of all, WE didnt contact the media, they contacted us.
When I was contacted my a producer for the show ( I was the
first member contacted) I told them while I felt it was a
very important story, I was VERY uncomfortable doing it. I
explained I never joined the battle to get in the public eye
and it had been a very private battle for me. I also told
the producer it was very important to me the story not be
presented in a tabloid way, just the facts please. The
people at EYE to EYE were wonderful, warm and caring. They
spent an entire day at my home Easter Saturday. I personally
think they did an outstanding job on this piece. I WAS
offered some talk shows before being contacted by CBS and
I refused. I have also refused other interviews. I have
however done an interview for a national magazine which
should be out in August. I am sorry if you missed the entire
point of the story, which was to warn other members and to
put some very public pressure on Prodigy to come clean on
this issue. If you dont agree with the way I handled it,
fine, no problem. Its NOT my fault Mark Johnson targeted me
or my son, its NOT my fault Prodigy choose to lie and try to
white wash the entire matter. I have been afraid of Mark and
his buddies making good on their threats. I take ownership
of My actions and would like to see Mark and P do the same.


===============   Note     8              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     DTPS48C    CRAIG CAMPBELL        Date:    05/08
From:   NNFW54B    LAURIE POWELL         Time:    10:52 AM

Craig, I was part of the story and even I have no idea where
the list came from. Things were shown from many computers,
mine, Eves, Larrys, Franks, and just maybe even Marks. Maybe
just maybe, that list of names was something HE kept for
some odd reason...Laurie


===============   Note     9              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     GNWC49A    EVELYN MC HUGH        Date:    05/08
From:   MBKM45A    IAN FRAIGUN CCP       Time:     1:35 PM

Evelyn,  notice now the attempts to direct attention away
from the real issues of this problem and to the nit of who
compiled a list of names shown on the program.  Any of us
have every right to compile any list we so wish.  If that
is shown on camera as part of the report then we still have
not done wrong, if wrong was done.  It is the
responsibility of the show produces to verify the accuracy
of information presented, and I am sure that they
understand fully what they can and cannot do leagally.  I
also am sure that everything shown by CBS or other network
ivestigative reporting shows have been reviewed by their
legal staff and found to be fit for distribution over the
media.  The information might have errors, but if they have
done their homework properly will not subject them to
liability, and definitely will not subject the compiler of
that list to liability simply because someone else made
that personal list available to the public.  Again back to
the same old tactics.  Misdirect attention for the real
issue to any nit where an argument, no matter how much of a
stretch, might be made against the victims and of course
include direct threats or innuendo about law suits.  Well I
for one have been threatened by these folks with legal
action for almost a year now.  I wish they either **** or
get of the pot, and until they do I will ignore the threats
because in a year no such action has been taken and the
threats now become meaningless.
Ian Fraigun, CCP     Genie/I.Fraigun     CIS/70424,57
5/8/94 12:14AM ET


===============   Note    10              =================

Board:      MEMBER EXCHANGE
Topic:      MEMBER FEEDBACK
Subject:    ADVISORY:STALKER****

To:     KXRG60B    HAZEL BARROW          Date:    05/08
From:   MBKM45A    IAN FRAIGUN CCP       Time:     1:39 PM

Hazel  beliefs are irrelevant here.  CBS does not pay money
for being interviewed for Eye to Eye.  You also don't get
paid for being interviewed for 60 minutes or inside
edition or hard copy or any of those other shows.  The only
chance of being paid for an interview is if you are a key
party in a very famous case like maybe you are Jeffery
Dahmer then you get paid but all the other folks you see
are interviewed without compensation.
Ian Fraigun, CCP     Genie/I.Fraigun     CIS/70424,57
5/8/94 12:30AM ET
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